Rimfire Ammo

[Dave S]

I bought this ammo because it was available and figured the published velocity was accurate. If I had known that it would shoot so fast, I wouldn't have bought it. Yes, I agree that my test samples are small. At $15.50 per box, I didn't want to blow limited amount of ammo that I had available to me. I just wanted to know where they shoot. Next time, if I can find some, I will attempt to buy some slower stuff. I'm learning here.
P.S. I bought this ammo from Killough Sports. All of the available Eley Match that they listed had published velocities of 1070 and above. I just went back and looked at the Tenex they have. Most lots have published velocities in the 1050-1065 region. What does that tell you?

Paul...

Do not believe those velocities on the box.. I have yet to chronograph ANY Eley ammo that comes close to the box velocities, and I chronograph all of my ammo, both RF and CF.. Usually the extreme spread and Standard Deviation are off by double digit amounts, some velocities are as much as 30-40 fps off.. Again, do not trust the velocity on the box.....

JMHO

Dave

[TrxR]

Paul...

Do not believe those velocities on the box.. I have yet to chronograph ANY Eley ammo that comes close to the box velocities, and I chronograph all of my ammo, both RF and CF.. Usually the extreme spread and Standard Deviation are off by double digit amounts, some velocities are as much as 30-40 fps off.. Again, do not trust the velocity on the box.....

JMHO

Dave

Have chronographed any Lapua? How does it compare to Eley as far as SD and ES goes?

[PedroS]

Chronographing .22lr ammo is a waist of time, like sorting them by weight

Velocities on the box, give you just one indication... better for wind or no wind, if, and that's a big if, they shoot well on your rifle. And even then, it depends, because that's not a golden rule.

The only way to tell, if a certain batch is good or not, is shooting it.

However, very bright mind shooters are trying, and I hope they will, to develop a different approach to sort .22lr ammo. Yet, for me, it implies another bias, as you have to manipulate ammo, and with this picky rounds, manipulating is not so good...

[doghunter]

Paul...

Do not believe those velocities on the box.. I have yet to chronograph ANY Eley ammo that comes close to the box velocities, and I chronograph all of my ammo, both RF and CF.. Usually the extreme spread and Standard Deviation are off by double digit amounts, some velocities are as much as 30-40 fps off.. Again, do not trust the velocity on the box.....

JMHO

Dave

With all due respect Dave.

The numbers that Eley (and possibly other manufacturers) quote are from their test barrels are from a machine rest fired at their test ranges under ideal conditions. Often they are from a selected lot# (That's business)

Like you have observed, the numbers do not match the factory specifications but then I have found that Eley, Lapua and RWS etc. top shelf ammo is more consistent (less flyers) than some other brands. It's also more expensive.

I also sort, test and chronograph my rimfire ammo and have noted the variations, they are indeed a pita.

So can you please elucidate me as to which .22 rimfire ammunition manufacturer that you consider is better, and why?

I am sure that many people would like to know.

* doggie *

[pikedrop]

In all of my decades of shooting hundreds of lots of Eley Tenex and Eley Match through my Oehler 35P, I have never encountered one lot that exceeded 1,100 FPS. The highest velocity I have ever encountered was 1,098 FPS, and that was with a 'recent' lot of Eley Match #1120-05128. I suspect something is amiss with your chronograph.

As usual, you have posted a reply to the wrong person.

[tim]

Chronographing .22lr ammo is a waist of time, like sorting them by weight

Velocities on the box, give you just one indication... better for wind or no wind, if, and that's a big if, they shoot well on your rifle. And even then, it depends, because that's not a golden rule.

The only way to tell, if a certain batch is good or not, is shooting it.

However, very bright mind shooters are trying, and I hope they will, to develop a different approach to sort .22lr ammo. Yet, for me, it implies another bias, as you have to manipulate ammo, and with this picky rounds, manipulating is not so good...

Yes indeed Pedro. All these guys playing with ammo are wasting their time.
Test everything you can, and the best you can..it either shoots or it does not……pretty simple.
You can also weigh, measure, sing to, and rub up against mid level ammo and the bottom line is it will always let you down, you want to shoot well, you need the best ammo you can get your hands on…..that’s a fact.

[Dave S]

With all due respect Dave.

The numbers that Eley (and possibly other manufacturers) quote are from their test barrels are from a machine rest fired at their test ranges under ideal conditions. Often they are from a selected lot# (That's business)

Like you have observed, the numbers do not match the factory specifications but then I have found that Eley, Lapua and RWS etc. top shelf ammo is more consistent (less flyers) than some other brands. It's also more expensive.

I also sort, test and chronograph my rimfire ammo and have noted the variations, they are indeed a pita.

So can you please elucidate me as to which .22 rimfire ammunition manufacturer that you consider is better, and why?

I am sure that many people would like to know.

* doggie *

"Doggie"

The most consistent ammo, velocity wise, was a certain lot # of Lapua Center X.. The extreme spread was 10 fps... Do I consider Lapua the best ammo,...NO.. I have shot other lots of Lapua and Eley, that shot better scores that that one Lot of Lapua.. What I said was, do not trust the velocity numbers on the Eley boxes, because almost all the time there is a good deal of difference in what the box says and the velocity that you get...

Dave