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    neck clearance

    what do you use or it in your br rifles.also what are your thoughts on this subject.have been looking over t j jacksons articles and dave scotts also in presion shooting.it is said you need to have less then .001 total to get groups in the zeros at 100 yards.

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    That's not been my experience because it's difficult to do correctly. It's like barrel threads. A little loose doesn't hurt a thing but a little tight can cause problems. I like .002" total in my PPC. .003"-.004" on large calibers.

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    ok thanks.thats what i have now

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    Cool Barrel Torque

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Tooley View Post
    That's not been my experience because it's difficult to do correctly. It's like barrel threads. A little loose doesn't hurt a thing but a little tight can cause problems. I like .002" total in my PPC. .003"-.004" on large calibers.
    Dave,

    would you be kind enough to elaborate on a little tight. i personally torque to 50 lbs using anti seize. Panda actions

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    Quote Originally Posted by RL Weikart View Post
    Dave,

    would you be kind enough to elaborate on a little tight. i personally torque to 50 lbs using anti seize. Panda actions
    FYI
    Kelby's instructions say torque to 100 ft lbs and DO NOT USE ANTI SIEZE.
    PAGE 14
    https://www.kelbly.com/wp-content/up...sManualWeb.pdf

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    I wouldn't worry too much about shooting zero's. Not many shooters ever shoot one in a match, even in trigger pull conditions. In fact, not that many shooters shoot in the one's . Put some trigger time testing in , with different bushings and see what your rifle likes. I'm just a self proclaimed middle of the pack shooter, so that's about all this advice is worth. Consistency and agging is what its all about. In your neck tension , reloading , and shooting. Spend the money on a resizing die that matches your chamber and shooting a ppc will be a better experience.
    It takes a great barrel, bullets and tune to shoot a zero.

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    yes,
    not likely to take advice from someone that thinks 1's are rare in competition, and no zeros too...
    sorry been there seen'em.


    Quote Originally Posted by Kurtis Brown View Post
    I wouldn't worry too much about shooting zero's. Not many shooters ever shoot one in a match, even in trigger pull conditions. In fact, not that many shooters shoot in the one's . Put some trigger time testing in , with different bushings and see what your rifle likes. I'm just a self proclaimed middle of the pack shooter, so that's about all this advice is worth. Consistency and agging is what its all about. In your neck tension , reloading , and shooting. Spend the money on a resizing die that matches your chamber and shooting a ppc will be a better experience.
    It takes a great barrel, bullets and tune to shoot a zero.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RL Weikart View Post
    Dave,

    would you be kind enough to elaborate on a little tight. i personally torque to 50 lbs using anti seize. Panda actions
    I was referring to neck clearance not barrel torque.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurtis Brown View Post
    I wouldn't worry too much about shooting zero's. Not many shooters ever shoot one in a match, even in trigger pull conditions. In fact, not that many shooters shoot in the one's . Put some trigger time testing in , with different bushings and see what your rifle likes. I'm just a self proclaimed middle of the pack shooter, so that's about all this advice is worth. Consistency and agging is what its all about. In your neck tension , reloading , and shooting. Spend the money on a resizing die that matches your chamber and shooting a ppc will be a better experience.
    It takes a great barrel, bullets and tune to shoot a zero.

    Good advice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RL Weikart View Post
    Dave,

    would you be kind enough to elaborate on a little tight. i personally torque to 50 lbs using anti seize. Panda actions
    Mr Weikart, there have been many discussions over the years concerning the proper CLEARANCE to use when machining barrel threads. This clearance, ie the "space" between the threads and the action is what Dave was referring to..... basically the same dimension, on the same plane as neck clearance. It was not a reference to "tightness" as in torque.

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    Yup! Dave is speaking about the barrel threads and neck clearance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurtis Brown View Post
    I wouldn't worry too much about shooting zero's. Not many shooters ever shoot one in a match, even in trigger pull conditions. In fact, not that many shooters shoot in the one's . Put some trigger time testing in , with different bushings and see what your rifle likes. I'm just a self proclaimed middle of the pack shooter, so that's about all this advice is worth. Consistency and agging is what its all about. In your neck tension , reloading , and shooting. Spend the money on a resizing die that matches your chamber and shooting a ppc will be a better experience.
    It takes a great barrel, bullets and tune to shoot a zero.
    A little bit of luck also helps!

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    Right on the money Kurtis

    Quote Originally Posted by Kurtis Brown View Post
    I wouldn't worry too much about shooting zero's. Not many shooters ever shoot one in a match, even in trigger pull conditions. In fact, not that many shooters shoot in the one's . Put some trigger time testing in , with different bushings and see what your rifle likes. I'm just a self proclaimed middle of the pack shooter, so that's about all this advice is worth. Consistency and agging is what its all about. In your neck tension , reloading , and shooting. Spend the money on a resizing die that matches your chamber and shooting a ppc will be a better experience.
    It takes a great barrel, bullets and tune to shoot a zero.
    We all like to shoot small but the agg wins the day.
    I doubt mr rsmither has ever shot a sanctioned BR match. (aka keyboard shooter) Otherwise he would totally understand what you are saying.

    Richard

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    Neck clearance

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Tooley View Post
    I was referring to neck clearance not barrel torque.
    Dave,

    Thank you for the reply

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    Cool Neck clearance

    Quote Originally Posted by alinwa View Post
    Mr Weikart, there have been many discussions over the years concerning the proper CLEARANCE to use when machining barrel threads. This clearance, ie the "space" between the threads and the action is what Dave was referring to..... basically the same dimension, on the same plane as neck clearance. It was not a reference to "tightness" as in torque.
    Thank you kind sir, I appreciate any and all advice, part of the learning curve

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