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    How about Shooting Coaches?

    I have had the theory for a time that most of us if not all could benefit greatly by having a Shooting Coach, just as other athletes have coaches. I think for older folks, such as myself, who have a declining ability to remember things, someone who would watch us when we shoot and what we shoot in, could cut the learning curve greatly.

    I don't know if he still does this but Tony Boyer offered seminars for a few years. It seems to me that some of the top RF shooters could make a few bucks; perhaps pay for their trips by offering shooting seminars. Wadda ya think?
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    Pete

    A great idea.

    An old friend of mine offers clay shooting coaching days and has done for the past 10+ years. I see no reason why something similar wouldn't work for .22BR.

    I also know of a world class fly fisherman that does the same thing.

    1 coach per 6 students max, group students by experience levels, novice, intermediate, expert.

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    Originally Posted by Kuyper
    Hello everyone,
    I'm a Kuyper College student renting a flat in Grand Rapids. I don't have much money, but I want to hire a shooting coach near me. Are there any workshops, domyhomeworkonline classes in Michigan?
    Hello,

    Try contacting someone from Wildwood Firearms Training and Range in Harbor Springs or Ultimate Protection Firearm Training Academy in Clinton Township. They should be open.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete Wass View Post
    I have had the theory for a time that most of us if not all could benefit greatly by having a Shooting Coach, just as other athletes have coaches. I think for older folks, such as myself, who have a declining ability to remember things, someone who would watch us when we shoot and what we shoot in, could cut the learning curve greatly.

    I don't know if he still does this but Tony Boyer offered seminars for a few years. It seems to me that some of the top RF shooters could make a few bucks; perhaps pay for their trips by offering shooting seminars. Wadda ya think?
    Pete, I think back to when I started & was gathering equipment & learning some of the nuances of the game from Gary, Paul, & yourself. Conversing about what to stay away from condition wise, paying attention to a certain flag mainly was a huge help.
    I try & pay that forward with the guys at the club here & they've all improved their skills.
    A good mentor is priceless.
    Someone watching over your flags as you shoot should help for something you're missing. I see it quite often, & at the same time could also still use some mentoring myself! Its amazing to me at just how stubborn I can be, or how inattentive I can be. I also wonder just how much I really care?
    If you need some help let me know, we'll both be confused!!!LOL

    Keith

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    [QUOTE=linekin;839025

    or how inattentive I can be.

    Keith[/QUOTE]

    Keith,

    I often ask myself, why bother to put out those flags then not look at them!

    Ken

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    Shoot the coach? Isnít that a little drastic?

    Getting a coach is not that easy. There is more than one way to shoot a match and every shooter seems to have a method in which to do this.I know this is the rimfire page but methods work for rimfire and centerfire alike. Three- four years ago while I was on a run of successes, a fellow wanted to come to my place and be coached on my method of going through a match. He knew I was a runner while he was a pecker. Over the phone I explained what I do or how I do what I do and he said he could never adapt to that method. So I said why bother coming over if he wasnít willing to change anything? And so he didnít.
    I will say this though, a coach can help you go through the paces and may pick up on little hitches you may be overlooking.

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    Shooting coaches

    A coach is a good idea Pete, but a mentor is a better one. When me and my son Bob first started Rim Fire shooting
    we had not a clue of what it takes to shoot a good target. We needed a mentor and an old guy by the name
    of Al Hadfield took the time to help us with Ammo, Guns and what I think most important the WIND Al was a good friend
    and a great mentor to me and Bob, I hope anyone who needs coaching will find someone like Al ,
    Ray

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    When I retired from rimfire BR, I had thoughts of doing an article on major things that helped me to get from middle of the road to winning. There was one big thing, and I never see it mentioned. Now, of course I'm assuming you have equipment suited to the task, i.e., great rifle great ammo, but it takes more than top equipment to win. It'd be intersting to sit around a table with Tony Harper, Ken Camper, Harry Deneen, DJ Hepler, Bob Collins, and others, and discuss this type stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kent Owens View Post
    When I retired from rimfire BR, I had thoughts of doing an article on major things that helped me to get from middle of the road to winning. There was one big thing, and I never see it mentioned. Now, of course I'm assuming you have equipment suited to the task, i.e., great rifle great ammo, but it takes more than top equipment to win. It'd be intersting to sit around a table with Tony Harper, Ken Camper, Harry Deneen, DJ Hepler, Bob Collins, and others, and discuss this type stuff.
    That would be so nice Kent...
    I'll give a leg and a kidney, well,... maybe just a kidney, as legs are too useful for benchrest, to be on front row listening!
    Please do broadcast...

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    It could help the sport

    Quote Originally Posted by Kent Owens View Post
    When I retired from rimfire BR, I had thoughts of doing an article on major things that helped me to get from middle of the road to winning. There was one big thing, and I never see it mentioned. Now, of course I'm assuming you have equipment suited to the task, i.e., great rifle great ammo, but it takes more than top equipment to win. It'd be intersting to sit around a table with Tony Harper, Ken Camper, Harry Deneen, DJ Hepler, Bob Collins, and others, and discuss this type stuff.
    one thing Benchrest has been short on is folks sharing what they have learned. Paying Forward can only help. It's one thing to be super competitive and I get that but there is a long way from telling others what one has learned and their actually being able to beat one with the knowledge. A person ive observed who is very open and giving is Jerry Stiller. He seems to willingly state the facts and tell what he has learned. Good on him.

    Pete

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    Quote Originally Posted by hambone View Post
    pete

    a great idea.

    An old friend of mine offers clay shooting coaching days and has done for the past 10+ years. I see no reason why something similar wouldn't work for .22br.

    I also know of a world class fly fisherman that does the same thing.

    1 coach per 6 students max, group students by experience levels, novice, intermediate, expert.
    i think coaching is great outside of days of matches no competer should be behind the line with scope on days of matches

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    Quote Originally Posted by billbrawand View Post
    i think coaching is great outside of days of matches no competer should be behind the line with scope on days of matches
    i think this should looked at in future.

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    Not quite coaching, but related: I think that many would benefit from videoing themselves shooting. A while back I was trying to help someone more than half way across the country. At my suggesting he set up his phone on the bench next to his and videoed himself taking several shots, and emailed the video to me. Based on that, I was able to improve his results significantly. IMO many shooters would be able to spot their own weaknesses using this same technique. I also think that the same thing could be done with wind flags, with the camera looking over the shoulder of the shooter, framed and focused on the flags.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete wass View Post
    one thing benchrest has been short on is folks sharing what they have learned. Paying forward can only help. It's one thing to be super competitive and i get that but there is a long way from telling others what one has learned and their actually being able to beat one with the knowledge. A person ive observed who is very open and giving is jerry stiller. He seems to willingly state the facts and tell what he has learned. Good on him.

    Pete
    i think sharing has been great down thru the yrs i have watched many help others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayhill View Post
    A coach is a good idea Pete, but a mentor is a better one. When me and my son Bob first started Rim Fire shooting
    we had not a clue of what it takes to shoot a good target. We needed a mentor and an old guy by the name
    of Al Hadfield took the time to help us with Ammo, Guns and what I think most important the WIND Al was a good friend
    and a great mentor to me and Bob, I hope anyone who needs coaching will find someone like Al ,
    Ray
    I agree with mentorship Ray, Al was also my mentor. Would bug him 2-3 times a day sometimes and he never complained. Living 3000 miles apart did not help but Al was always there in Spirit.

    Regards,
    Joe

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