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  1. #31
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    I know how you feel. I have two of the beasts and I also have two grandsons. I think their future is ordained.....

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    Old Swede

    Wait a minute, I think I see an angle here. Find another #3S. As it happens, I am a young lad of only 44 and could be adopted as a grandson........

    Greg

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    Here is one of them. You may have visiting rights.


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    OldSwede

    Thanks Pappaw!!!

    I am still getting a kick out of your use of the word "ordained" regarding your grandsons and the Stechers. "My Pappaw says I am an ordained shooter!"

    Greg

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    rings for BRNO 3

    Hi, I just bought BRNO 3 and absolutely love it. It shoots 2 inch group with open site at 100m.
    I want to make it 200m piggy shooting rifle. I have HAWKE 30mm scope 6-24x50 for this.
    I know that I need to find or make -20moa (front) +20moa (rear) rings to shoot 21" higher than rifle is pointed to. The grove for the scope on the action is 15.8mm outside and 14.5mm inside ( not regular 11mm European dove tail). Does anyone have any idea where to find this kind of rings?
    Please reply here or j_m_ru@yahoo.com

    Thanks,
    Joe

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    D.I. Products makes a two-piece set of adapters to adapt the 16mm groove to a Weaver base. Loonk under "CZ" on their website. Then, get a set of Burris Signature Zee rings with the offset adapters. Done.

    http://www.diproductsinc.com/
    Last edited by OldSwede; 09-01-2010 at 09:26 AM.

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    way old, but still need info

    I have a few model 3. one is the 3s. one 3 has a stock like the model 4, the others have a stock like the 3s, kind of a "bulb" on it. One of the model 3 has a primitive looking tangent rear sight, unlike all the rest of the model 3 and model 4. The model 3s has the double triggers, not sure how to use it, will work on set up later, Any ideas?. It does fire by pushing the front one forward, reguardless or what i do with the rear. I know this is an old thread, but maybe it comes up top.
    bob

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    Quote Originally Posted by beemerbob View Post
    I have a few model 3. one is the 3s. one 3 has a stock like the model 4, the others have a stock like the 3s, kind of a "bulb" on it. One of the model 3 has a primitive looking tangent rear sight, unlike all the rest of the model 3 and model 4. The model 3s has the double triggers, not sure how to use it, will work on set up later, Any ideas?. It does fire by pushing the front one forward, reguardless or what i do with the rear. I know this is an old thread, but maybe it comes up top.
    bob
    Hi Bob,
    Wow, this thread goes back a ways!

    I got hurt pretty bad in the recession and had to sell my 3S, along with a bunch of other good rifles.

    From what I recall of the 3S, the back trigger is the set trigger. Pull it and the front trigger becomes verrrrrry light. Then pull the front trigger like you would on any other rifle. And by pull, I mean very lightly pull it. That trigger can be adjusted very low. Those are fine old rifles you have, I hope you enjoy them each and every one!

    Take care,

    Greg

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    it is an old thread, but those rifles are old, and i am getting there too! I will try that tomorrow. after cocking the bolt, neither trigger fires by pulling back. it will fire by pushing the front forward, which is very awkward. the rear feels very light in movement, but holding it back does not let the front one fire when pulled back. I am going to have to try different approaches.
    thanx
    bob

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    Quote Originally Posted by beemerbob View Post
    it is an old thread, but those rifles are old, and i am getting there too! I will try that tomorrow. after cocking the bolt, neither trigger fires by pulling back. it will fire by pushing the front forward, which is very awkward. the rear feels very light in movement, but holding it back does not let the front one fire when pulled back. I am going to have to try different approaches.
    thanx
    bob
    Hi Bob,

    I OWE YOU AN APOLOGY!

    I had to go find a pic of one of these to check my memory.

    I got it BACKWARDS! Goodness, Iím sorry! I sold mine years ago and forgot the trigger arrangement.

    Pull the FRONT trigger to the rear until you hear a click and it should set the system.

    THEN pull the rear trigger. You should be able to fire it this way.

    I remembered the firing trigger was knurled, but I didnít recall itís position being in the back.

    If you have any more issues let me know and we can sort them out.

    Take care,

    Greg

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    i did get a chance to try all the ideas today. that one that worked, mostly from you, was. pull the front trigger, it did not feel like a fire type situation, was long, mushy, no real telling when it set the rear, but the rear would move a bit, and a minor click. then, the knurled rear would be able to fire the sear. I didnt put the rear sight on, yet, looks like one was never mounted, but,....i didnt buy just to look at it !
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    Quote Originally Posted by beemerbob View Post
    i did get a chance to try all the ideas today. that one that worked, mostly from you, was. pull the front trigger, it did not feel like a fire type situation, was long, mushy, no real telling when it set the rear, but the rear would move a bit, and a minor click. then, the knurled rear would be able to fire the sear. I didnt put the rear sight on, yet, looks like one was never mounted, but,....i didnt buy just to look at it !
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    Hi Bob,
    Glad it is working for you. Yes, the front will have a long mushy pull. That minor movement from the rear trigger along with the minor click is the system setting.

    Mine was mint looking, too. These are fine old rifles, and quite rare. Try a variety of target ammo in it and you might be surprised at what it can do.

    There is a tuning ability for the barrel under the forearm. I highly recommend NOT playing with it until you find the most accurate ammo for it. I donít know if this was optimized by the factory or not, but it may be in the best location already. If and when you decide to start trying to use the barrel tension system, make small adjustments and WRITE DOWN how much you moved the screws and which direction. Otherwise it is REALLY easy to get lost and have all sorts of headaches getting back to where you started. An aggravating fact about any tuning system like that is the wood will absorb a bit of moisture depending upon humidity and you have to tweak it to find an optimal setting. As I understand it, the Remington 40X rifles that used a similar idea would move, and people quit using the adjustment screws and let the barrel free float. Your rifle is so rare that modifying it permanently in any way will negatively impact the value. But I have no doubt your rifle is a shooter as is!

    I left you a PM with my direct email, if you have any issues give me a shout and I will see if we can work through them.

    From what youíve posted you have a mighty fine collection of Brno rifles. Denny, the man who imported them to this country, would be proud. Enjoy them all, especially that 3S!

    Take care,

    Greg

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    for now, i am just using aguila colibri. quiet enough to use in the basement, and some cci quiet. louder, but ok for a few rounds. i will have to wait for outdoor season around chicago to do much more. until i mount the peep sight, i just usually use one of the others. one of the best, maybe just due to the scope, which isnt anything special, is a norinco jw-15, copy of a model 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beemerbob View Post
    for now, i am just using aguila colibri. quiet enough to use in the basement, and some cci quiet. louder, but ok for a few rounds. i will have to wait for outdoor season around chicago to do much more. until i mount the peep sight, i just usually use one of the others. one of the best, maybe just due to the scope, which isnt anything special, is a norinco jw-15, copy of a model 1.
    Howdy Bob,
    A word of caution on the Colibri. I was playing with some it one time in an Anschutz with a long barrel. One shot didnít seem to have an impact. I thought that was weird. I started to load another one......but it BUGGED me that I didnít see an impact. So I pulled the bolt and looked down the bore. No light. Got a cleaning rod and pushed the bullet out. Next shot had an impact.

    I started using the Super Colibri after that. Velocity is around 500 FPS as opposed to 350 FPS or so with the regular Colibri. Iíve played with the CCI quiet just for the fun of it, too. Blackbirds donít like that stuff.....

    If a bullet gets stuck in the bore and you shoot another one after it you can ďringĒ the barrel, pretty much killing its accuracy. Just wanted to let you know in case you were unaware of it. It would be a heartbreaker to have that happen to something as rare as that 3S.

    Those Norincoís are supposed to be pretty decent shooters, by the way.

    Take care,

    Greg

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    the colibris i use are supers. i was lazy when referring to them. they shoot well at 40' in my basement, and group pretty well across the board. Almost always, my better rifles shoot them better, the jw-15 just has a scope that i really like, was mounted by previous owner and is set up just right for me, most of my others are open, peeps if available. I have a kimber 82c, stainless, that shoots as good or better, but the scope was mounted 23? years ago by me, and the leupold needs to readjusted for my older eyes, and to my cheek and hold. the only rifle i have that doesnt let the super colibri exit the barrel is a new 455 ultra, 28" barrel?. i listen for every shot, and push a wood dowel thru if any concern, but thanx for that reminder.
    bob

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