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    where in the rule book is the scoring system for Hunter Class? how does it work? let's say tie 250-15x do we go to the first x or who has the most x's on first target ?

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    NBRSA Rule Book link

    Section 11.5.9 to Section 11.5.13 should answer what you are asking for NBRSA rules.

    11.5.10. Yardage Aggregate Ties – Refer to Match #1 and compare scores successively until the tie is broken, match by match. If still tied at Match #5, then revert to Match #1, bull #1 and compare score by bull until tie is broken.
    11.5.11. Grand Aggregate Ties – Start with the score of the shortest yardage in the Grand Aggregate. If needed, then start as in the yardage tie method. The tie breaking will continue by match all the way through the multiple yardages in the Grand Aggregate before reverting to bull #1, Match #1, or the shortest yardage.
    11.5.12. In the event of a tie of 250 and 25 X’s, then the scorer will break the tie by determining the number of “wipeout” X’s. A wipeout X is defined as the complete X dot being fully circumscribed by the caliber specific ring of the NBRSA scoring reticle.
    11.5.13. Any rules not in direct conflict to the above Score Shooting rules shall be in full force and effect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coondogkid View Post
    where in the rule book is the scoring system for Hunter Class? how does it work? let's say tie 250-15x do we go to the first x or who has the most x's on first target ?
    Mike, many are doing it wrong, they look at the #1 bullseye in Match One. I have even heard shooters say, "I have a great tiebreaker" after pin wheeling the very first bullseye.

    The problem might be the definition of "Match", A Match is the five bulls eyes on each target page. When it says to refer to Match One, that means the target page. If one shooter has a 50 5x, and the other a 50 4x, the tie breaker goes to the higher score. If the first match is the same, then you go to Match two, and so on.

    In the event that all five matches are the same, (say each shot a 50 4x in each Match), then you refer back to the individule bulls eyes, going through all five Matches untill one shooter has a better bull.

    Grand Aggs refer back to the shortest yardage.
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    said in 5th grader talk for us non Mensa members

    If I am reading this right, you go to the one that has the most X's on the first paper target ( the target with 1 sighter and 5 record targets no matter in what order). then you go to the total X's on the second paper target (the target with 1 sighter and 5 record targets no matter in what order). continue through all 5 targets.... THEN if still tied..... you go to target 1 on paper 1...….. Correct?

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    No, the first tie breaker is the most points -- match by match.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter View Post
    No, the first tie breaker is the most points -- match by match.

    Sorry... I ASSUMED we were talking about two people with 250's..... but you re correct..... most points.... ASSUMING they both have 250's...… My statement is correct.....

    right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Bryant View Post
    NBRSA Rule Book link

    Section 11.5.9 to Section 11.5.13 should answer what you are asking for NBRSA rules.

    11.5.10. Yardage Aggregate Ties – Refer to Match #1 and compare scores successively until the tie is broken, match by match. If still tied at Match #5, then revert to Match #1, bull #1 and compare score by bull until tie is broken.
    11.5.11. Grand Aggregate Ties – Start with the score of the shortest yardage in the Grand Aggregate. If needed, then start as in the yardage tie method. The tie breaking will continue by match all the way through the multiple yardages in the Grand Aggregate before reverting to bull #1, Match #1, or the shortest yardage.
    11.5.12. In the event of a tie of 250 and 25 X’s, then the scorer will break the tie by determining the number of “wipeout” X’s. A wipeout X is defined as the complete X dot being fully circumscribed by the caliber specific ring of the NBRSA scoring reticle.
    11.5.13. Any rules not in direct conflict to the above Score Shooting rules shall be in full force and effect.
    Thank You Mike. You are very helpful, as always.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Bryant View Post
    NBRSA Rule Book link

    Section 11.5.9 to Section 11.5.13 should answer what you are asking for NBRSA rules.

    11.5.10. Yardage Aggregate Ties – Refer to Match #1 and compare scores successively until the tie is broken, match by match. If still tied at Match #5, then revert to Match #1, bull #1 and compare score by bull until tie is broken.
    11.5.11. Grand Aggregate Ties – Start with the score of the shortest yardage in the Grand Aggregate. If needed, then start as in the yardage tie method. The tie breaking will continue by match all the way through the multiple yardages in the Grand Aggregate before reverting to bull #1, Match #1, or the shortest yardage.
    11.5.12. In the event of a tie of 250 and 25 X’s, then the scorer will break the tie by determining the number of “wipeout” X’s. A wipeout X is defined as the complete X dot being fully circumscribed by the caliber specific ring of the NBRSA scoring reticle.
    11.5.13. Any rules not in direct conflict to the above Score Shooting rules shall be in full force and effect.

    IBS is almost the same but the wording is different for grand aggregate ties and would change if you shoot say, 200 then 100. The tiebreaker goes to the FIRST yardage rather than the closest yardage. I've had it matter.
    You have to watch because if I'm not mistaken, the IBS scoring program defaults to the shortest yardage but the rule says FIRST not shortest.

    C) Grand Aggregate Tie
    944 To break a Grand Aggregate tie, go the range aggregate of the first yardage
    945 completed. Use the highest score to break the tie. If tie is not broken, go to the
    946 first match of first yardage completed and break tie by score and then by score
    947 plus “X” count. The use match 2, 3, 4 and 5 if necessary. If this does not break
    948 the tie proceed to the matches fired for the second aggregate, in the event this
    949 fails, return to match one, bull number one, of the first yardage and use the
    950 miss and out system. Proceed until the tie is broken.
    Last edited by mwezell; 03-18-2019 at 05:28 PM.

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