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    Just thinking

    Has anyone thought about "Hunter Group" matches ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by coondogkid View Post
    Has anyone thought about "Hunter Group" matches ?


    Hunter Group???Why??? What is wrong with IBS and NBRSA Group???

    We are not Hunters we are BENCHREST!!!
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    Group with 6X scopes. I see that you don't shoot Hunter class. just a little more challenge. Before we only had Hunter class (Score shooting with 6X scope) and the group shooters wanted to shoot it.

    SOOO why not try group with Hunter class guns?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JerrySharrett View Post
    Hunter Group???Why??? What is wrong with IBS and NBRSA Group???

    We are not Hunters we are BENCHREST!!!
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    You are not Hunter Class you are a Benchrest Shooter. WE are Too. just WE use a 6X power scope. 10 lb gun
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    Want a challenge in group shooting? replace your competition scope on your sporter 6PPC, 10.5 pound gun with a fixed 6X power hunter class scope. and go for it. There’s nothing that says you cant.

    Mirage would not be much of a problem with a 6X scope. The problem would be seeing bullet holes at 200/300 yds. I have an old 6X scope. May give it a try, just for comparison. When you’re 75 with corrected vision, a 6X rifle scope is not appealing. Not even on a deer rifle.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Chism G View Post
    Want a challenge in group shooting? replace your competition scope on your sporter 6PPC, 10.5 pound gun with a fixed 6X power hunter class scope. and go for it. There’s nothing that says you cant.

    Mirage would not be much of a problem with a 6X scope. The problem would be seeing bullet holes at 200/300 yds. I have an old 6X scope. May give it a try, just for comparison. When you’re 75 with corrected vision, a 6X rifle scope is not appealing. Not even on a deer rifle.




    Glenn
    Good ideal, just have a Class for it.
    works for me and 81 year old Ray Perry. most of us are "old folks"

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    Really?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chism G View Post
    Want a challenge in group shooting? replace your competition scope on your sporter 6PPC, 10.5 pound gun with a fixed 6X power hunter class scope. and go for it. There’s nothing that says you cant.

    Mirage would not be much of a problem with a 6X scope. The problem would be seeing bullet holes at 200/300 yds. I have an old 6X scope. May give it a try, just for comparison. When you’re 75 with corrected vision, a 6X rifle scope is not appealing. Not even on a deer rifle.




    Glenn
    I have enough challenge shooting BR with 40 power scope. I sighted a friend's rifle in with a 3-9 and that was enough for me. I can't see me taking a accurate rifle and handicapping myself. If I just squint a bit when I pull the trigger, would that work? Why not go to open sights? To each his own.

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    I guess you'd have to be a Hunter Class shooter to understand

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    Isn't that how the sporter class started years ago???

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    Quote Originally Posted by geo.ulrich View Post
    Isn't that how the sporter class started years ago???
    I think so, then came the PPC and it changed everything.

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    Group it is....

    Quote Originally Posted by coondogkid View Post
    Has anyone thought about "Hunter Group" matches ?
    Don't know about a "Hunter Class Group" shoot, but I do shoot group at New Braunfels with my Hunter class rifle. Won small group at 200 in one match. I just replace my Leopold 6X Hunter scope, with a Weaver 36. But using a 6X scope, one could see all their flags in the scope field.

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    I'm not going to look, but I think Sporter class started as a 6mm version of LV & HV.

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    You're right on...

    Quote Originally Posted by FBecigneul View Post
    The non- flat 2.25 inch fore end is another issue as well. I do enjoy Hunter Class Score but in Michigan you're usually shooting against yourself only.
    The Hunter Class has greatly diminished since the NBRSA authorized VFS. The general feeling is "who wants to shoot with a 6X scope?" One thing about VFS is that with a 36X scope or more, you can see your mistakes immediately. No spotting scope necessary.

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    Wink I'll pick on Wilbur to quote.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wilbur View Post
    I'm not going to look, but I think Sporter class started as a 6mm version of LV & HV.
    Sporter class originated with a .23 Cal. restriction - to escape the .222 and variants thereof - and 8X maximum scope magnification/power. Within four years, the magnification restriction was lifted - don't recall the exact dates, but just read several AMERICAN RIFLEMAN (yes, the NRA publication) reports covering several years (mid -late 1960s) of bench-rest evolution, into the contemporary classes. Most of the articles were authored by

    Virg, and all, in the NBRSA, VfS did not decrease Hunter Class attendance - prior to sanctioned VfS, bleeding badly, from multiple cuts! All-time high attendance at the NBRSA Hunter Nationals, was at Casper, WY, 2000: we had 105, or 106 competitors. By 2008, we were down to less than 1/2 of that again . . and, attendance continued to decline until the NBRSA decided to sanction VfS, including a National Championship, & including a TWO GUN (Hunter and VfS), after which, attendance has increased each year - albeit modestly. Oh, VfS wasn't accepted by the NBRSA board, until 2013 - attendance at the Hunter Nationals, that year, was measly: <40 maybe 36-38.

    I believe that one of the major wounds Hunter Class suffered, was the demise of the TcL(s), which motivated people to show up in mobs (teams) to prove that they were the top dogs in the country. The TcL(s) were fueled by coverage in the now defunct PRECISION SHOOTING magazine: The two Trans Continental Leagues were the life-blood of the Hunter Class. Keep 'em ON the X! RG

    P.S. If there is any interest, I'll dig the magazines out and provide the dates of the various issues.
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    Hunter Class (My experience)

    I got talked into buying a hunter class rifle(10lb),by my mentor, back in 1999. At that time, VFS was gaining popularity and has since become a popular venue,In most regions. you can compete in VFS with any legal group class rifle except unlimited.

    My Rifle was chambered in 30 Fat Albert. Built by Cecil Tucker. Its unfortunate that the “Fat Albert” Character’s creator, Bill Cosby, was recently sentenced to 3 to 10 years in State Prison for sexual predation. Many fans were surprised to find out what Bill was doing behind the curtains.

    The 30 Fat Albert was a very accurate Hunter Class Chambering. I shot it in a couple of VFS matches. Recoil was quite noticeable. At the end of the match, you felt the effects for several days.

    Making brass from 284 win brass was a real PITA. I had Neil Jones make me some form Dies but the process was still labor intensive.

    The only thing I have left from that Rifle is the 6X scope. I just cant see myself shooting group with a 30 Fat Albert. Has nothing to do with the character.


    Glenn

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